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Before Beggars' Hill:
.......... Flyntlocke
.......... King Bill Folk Club
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BEGGARS' HILL

This is the story of the Beggars' Hill folk-rock album from 1976 which is now much sought-after by collectors of vinyl records. In 2010 it was professionally restored and officially released on CD for the first time by Talking Elephant Records.


Interesting emails

Now that this website is listed by Google, it is not being viewed by just friends and family. The following emails may be of interest to other readers, and are included with the permission of the senders, whose identity and email addresses are omitted to protect their privacy. So far as I can tell, they are genuine and unsolicited comments from strangers. Emails from friends and family are not included, as they may be biased!


25 to 30 August 2008

Hi,
My name is Chuck and I'm from the US. I am the happy owner of 2 copies of your lp! The first I bought from a record dealer in the UK in the late 80's . The second from a record dealer in Canada in 2003. The second copy was an upgrade. I've since transferred the lp to cd. I transferred it then declicked it to remove surface noise etc. I take it with me in my car about once a year and listen through it several times. I've been a collector of british folk/folk rock since the 70's. Nice lp you made. I was shocked to find your website. Great site and very informative. Have you ever been approached by anyone to release this on cd? Over the years rare small run lp's such as yours have slowly been released on cd but your's has not. I'm sure there would be interest among collectors. Anyway, great website!!
Take care,
Chuck

Hi Chuck,
Many thanks for your kind words.
No, we've never been asked to release the lp on cd. Maybe if there's some interest, I'll make it available from the website.
If you read the "After Beggars' Hill" paragraph for 1976-77, you'll know how rare your 2 copies are - I guess there's only about 150 copies in existence now!
How did you find the website? Up till now, it's mainly been viewed by friends and family.
Thanks for your interest,
David

Hi David,
When time allows I search the web for cd's by bands such as yours and check to see if it has been released on disc. I just googled Beggars Hill and your site was third or fourth listed. Do you still have the master tapes of the recording? A couple of rare recordings I would compare to Beggars Hill would be Braken-Prince Of The Northlands and The Mountain Ash Band-The Hermit. Both of those were released straight off the vinyl. The vinyl was in pretty good nick on both of those. As a collector I was just happy to have the recordings even though they were lifted from lp's. I think the run on the cd's were small, 500-1000. Those go on e-bay now for 40$-50$ US. Still awaiting Hedgehog Pie, Bully Wee Band, Jack The Lad-Jackpot, Spud. The 4th lp by 5 Hand Reel which the title eludes me at the moment. I have all these on lp and transferred them to disc just like yours with complete artwork. But an official release would be nice. Nice chatting with you David.
Take care,
Chuck

Hi Chuck,
Thanks for your reply.
No, I don't have the master tapes, but like you, I've copied the album onto cd and cleaned up the surface noise and clicks. I didn't do the artwork though, as reducing it from 12 inches to 5 inches makes most print too small to read.
If I did have the master tapes, there are a few tracks I'd like to improve, mainly where some of the vocals or instruments are too loud or too quiet - particularly the dulcimer intro to 'Poor Ditching Boy' which fades in when the intro is almost finished, and the vocal harmonies which fade in midway through the chorus. Those were not intentional fades - the first run through to balance the eight-track recording was transferred to the master tapes, but we should have repeated it with the final balanced sound levels right from the start. I would also try to restore the intended vocal harmonies on the last chorus of 'Who Knows Where The Time Goes?' - in the recording session we were unable nail this to achieve the soft smooth blend it needed, so due to time constraints we dropped the harmonies, but unfortunately this left Jo singing a ninth (A) on the final note without the harmonies (G, B & D) to complete the chord, so it sounds a bit odd.
As the website has only recently been listed by Google, I'll wait and see if there's much interest in an official cd release before exploring this further.
Thanks again,
David


06 to 09 October 2008

Hi,
My name is Oliver, I'm from Brussels, Belgium. I really appreciate your LP, which I don't own, unfortunately! I received the songs in a mp3 format, from a correspondent of mine in ...South Korea!!! Thanks to internet, music is more than ever THE universal language... Of course, I'd be very interested to buy an eventual re-edition of your beautiful LP, or a cd version if you ever decide to produce it, as I can't personally afford to buy collectors' LPs at crazy prices. Congratulations for your friendly website, and thanks again for the music! Oliver

Hi Oliver,
Thank you for your email and your kind words. I agree with you about the crazy prices collectors will pay - did you see a copy sold on e-Bay a few days ago for £100? I would like to put your email on the website, on the interesting emails page. Is that OK? I will not show your full name or email address. Thanks again,
David

Hi David,
Thank you for answering. Of course, you can edit my email on your website, hope you'll receive many more positive comments, to help you make up your mind in order to re-produce your record... Please, let me know if it happens!
Olivier

Hi Olivier,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I'll let you know if there is any news. Should I call you Oliver or Olivier? You've used both names!
David

Hi David,
My original christian name is Olivier, in french, 'coz i'm a french speaking Belgian. I use to sign up as "Oliver" when i write in english (...with lots of errors, I'm afraid!), ...or "Oliviero", when I chat with the italian side of my family. ...A pure European mix!!!! All my friends call me "Oli", the best way to be sure nobody's wrong. Well now, it's up to you, choose the one you like best!
O.


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Dave Frohnsdorff (bass) & Neil Stanford (electric guitar)
Dave Frohnsdorff (bass) & Neil Stanford (electric guitar)

Pete Roberts (drums) & Neil Stanford (standing) during a break in rehearsals
Pete Roberts (drums) & Neil Stanford (standing) during a break in rehearsals

JM Davis (bass)
JM Davis (bass)